Judge Dread
I'm sorry, but in principle, I don't usually correspond with people that appear to lack common sense - but thank you for asking, none the less.
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Did the sun stand still and go backwards up the steps?
by TJ - iAmCleared2Land inbeen a while since i posted here, but driving into work the other day i recalled how "excited" we all were when it was announced that scientists had discovered "proof" that there is a full "day" missing astronomically, for the exact period of time covered by joshua's having the sun stand still, and isaiah having the sun move backwards, sending the shadow back up the steps for hezekiah.. that got me searching jwd for a thread about this topic, and i didn't find one, but i did find this snopes article.. http://www.snopes.com/religion/lostday.asp.
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Mental Disorders and family dysfunction in JW org
by babygirl30 inthis is solely about my family...how messed up they are and will probably be till lord knows when.. 1. dad is a controlling, emotionally abusive, non affectionate, narcsissist.
everything needs to be about him in some way shape or form.
no compassion whatsoever for people who do not 'worship' the ground he walks on...and that includes his own children.
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babygirl30
Sounds like you've already started to move on with your life - well done to see the identify the extremely sad, real cause of these tragic consequences of serious mental problems, exacerbated by JW doctrine!
Mental instability + JW dogma = total disaster and mayhem for all exposed family members. Get out of there before you become the next victim!
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Did the sun stand still and go backwards up the steps?
by TJ - iAmCleared2Land inbeen a while since i posted here, but driving into work the other day i recalled how "excited" we all were when it was announced that scientists had discovered "proof" that there is a full "day" missing astronomically, for the exact period of time covered by joshua's having the sun stand still, and isaiah having the sun move backwards, sending the shadow back up the steps for hezekiah.. that got me searching jwd for a thread about this topic, and i didn't find one, but i did find this snopes article.. http://www.snopes.com/religion/lostday.asp.
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Probably most people on this site would accept that this is just an imaginary miraculous fable or fairy story. It assumes that you were going to be alright if you belonged to a special people protected by their god. It is difficult to know how it was meant to be taken by the first ones to read about such bizarre events - perhaps, many even back then concluded that the words were not meant to be taken literally.
If you stop and think about it, from a scientific viewpoint, it is a total impossibility.
Back when the story was written, most people lacked any education, knew nothing or very little of the great thinkers of their day - in fact, most were probably unable to read, or afford papyrus or vellum manuscripts. Superstitious belief was the norm.
In many ways people back then were much like many JWs and other narrow-minded groups today - they'd believe just about anything if it was written in a so-called 'holy' book without reasoning on the matter.
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Do you still want to live forever?
by paul from cleveland indo you still have the desire to live forever on a paradise earth?.
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paul from cleveland
To me, this fable is probably the most ridiculous JW belief of all time, closely followed by the belief that there is going to be a resurrection for millions of people back to this earth!
Nothing lives forever, or ever will. This is how all living things have evolved over countless billions of years. All mechanical body parts wear out, sooner or later. Teeth wear down and eventually fall out - they don't regrow. Eyesight fails, etc. Having said that, modern medical advances have prolonged our lifespan in many of the worl'd more affluent countries, enabling more people to live for longer with a relatively high quality of life. Maybe, our lifespan can go up a few decades, but not forever!
Even the inanimate planet itself is wearing away, and is constantly being reformed and reshaped by earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tectonic plate movements, etc.
I like things this way because it has always been this way, and always will. Of course, this doesn't mean we shouldn't do what we can to preserve our environment. We all have a moral responsibility to leave the earth at least as good, if not better, than we found it, for when our time to die comes along, we hopefully can leave something worthwhile for the next generation. In that way, our lives can live on, so to speak, forever.
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DI noah have 2 or seven pairs of bagheeri kiplingi spiders on board?
by badboy inthey are the only spiders known to be vegetarian..
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badboy
This site has received thousands of posts from people that know the biblical flood myth is just that - a myth, and not even a very good one at that!
There is absolutely no scientific evidence - no geologist worth his/her salt would be so stupid as to contest their belief in a global (or for that matter, even a major local) biblical flood when the 'noah' figure was alive, around 4,000 years ago. Were the story to be true, the evidence would be totally overwhelmingly self-evident! It is not.
The more informed the audience becomes, though, the more damning the evidence mounts up to totally anihillate any belief in the Genesis account of a global flood as a fact. This singular belief is what got me really mad about the JW cult, and started me thinking deeply about the sheer lunacy of the WT religion as it tried to uphold their belief in the totally unbelievable!
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Anyone here have any experience of moving to a liberal Muslim country?
by lifelong humanist ini'd like to move in the next year or two to turkey - a huge, self-supporting country at the far eastern end of the mediterranean.
i want to retire at 60 - my wife will then be 61. due to the local economy in turkey, this could just be a practical possibility, not just a pipe-dream.
although we'd prefer italy, which we've visited far more often, the costs there are just too expensive for our restricted budget!.
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I'd like to move in the next year or two to Turkey - a huge, self-supporting country at the far Eastern end of the Mediterranean. I want to retire at 60 - my wife will then be 61. Due to the local economy in Turkey, this could just be a practical possibility, not just a pipe-dream. Although we'd prefer Italy, which we've visited far more often, the costs there are just too expensive for our restricted budget!
The fact that Turkey is a liberal Muslim country doesn't deter me in the slightest! I have to admit that my JW wife is slightly less sure about this, though. I reckon that EU membership for Turkey is just a matter of time - which, if true, will just push Turkish prices up, big time. We've visited the country 5 times now, and enjoy each visit more than the last. Even my JW wife isn't too bothered about the religious legacy - as long as she can attend the odd JW meeting, I think she'd be willing to relocate. However, this might be rather difficult, as we're looking at the Aegian and Mediterranean Turkish regions - not around the capital, Istanbul, where I know there are some JW KHs.
Do any posters here have any knowledge of this incredible, ancient country? Do you know if there are any KHs in our preferred destination area? If so, do you know where they're located?
I'm thinking that this just might be the best way to get my wife JW finally free of the cult, and enjoy a low-cost lifestyle before old-age and its many potential health problems come our way. To live amidst beautiful scenery with such an incredible amount of ancient historical sites right on the doorstep, totally fills me with awe. Our 4 sons and their families can all well afford to visit us, should this move turn into a reality.
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Which is your favourite single malt Scotch Whisky, and why?
by lifelong humanist inas a true scot, i'm deeply passionate about most things scottish, any possibly one of our small nation's most successful export is my main favourite - our single malt whisky heritage.. i'm writing this while savouring a 12 year old highland park - distilled in the orkney islands, the most northerly distillery in scotland.
it is one of my favourites - it was my late father's favourite tipple.
yet, only 500m from my house is scotlands oldest legal whisky distillery - glenturret, in crieff.
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Thank you all posters - I read your comments with great pleasure. I'm heartened that some of our lesser known malts are available in your country, and that you don't grudge the extra cost of buying the longer matured malts - that's pure class!
I'm just about to enjoy a second wee dram of Old Pulteney 12 year old before I make a tasty smoked haddock fish pie for tonight's dinner. If any of you lived nearer, you'd be warmly welcome to call in and enjoy...
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jambon1
Here in bonnie Scotland, the sun is shining and I've just enjoyed a brisk walk in the hills around my home town of Crieff. On the way home, I could hear a pipe band playing in the distance. The band marched to the town square - the scene was awash with tartan. There were quite a few good-spirited tourists about, enjoying the occasion and the pleasant weather.
My JW wife was at her nearby local KH, no doubt most present were irritated that they could hardly hear the proceedings of their meeting amidst the din of the music! I bet my wife approved of the music, though.
Scottish JWs have had to abandon much of what makes us Scots unique to join the cult - the JWs dislike any member that openly enjoys Scottish pipe music - tapping your feet is seen as approval, so I was always in trouble. WEaring highland dress is seen as a gimick - to draw attention to the wearer. While this may be true of some, who am I to judge the motives of others? One of my son's joined the local school's pipe band, and I was hauled up for it before the elders on several occasions - they thought it was 'too nationalistic', and that I should insist he quit. I didn't follow the party line, and Gordon was glad as it was a big thing in his life then, and even more so, now (he's a skilled musician in the Scots Guards, based in London).
So, some of the comments here don't surprise me at all.
I was sent to primary school wearing a kilt, and did so until I was ready to go into secondary school, aged 12. I thought it was quite fun, and several other boys were dressed likewise. It didn't do me any harm.
I wasn't permitted to wear a kilt to my wedding (in 1971) by the then Congregation Servant, so I had to dress in a fashion that he approved of. I was really pissed of at this ridiculous attitude, but calmed down and tried to forget the lunacy of the man in charge. I remember also being warned that I had to have a 'proper' haircut, or else the KH was 'out of the question'. Being a young, keen to please type, I complied with that as well. Being just 19 years old at the time, I lacked experience of standing up for myself, capitulated, and the wedding went ahead at the KH. Looking back, I should have refused to compromise just to please the local Hitler styled CS - he really was a nasty piece of work. Unfortunately, his deputy assistant CO was to be my father in law, so, being afraid for his 'position', he wasn't in the least bit supportive of my predicament.
Anyway, back to the thread. Scottish JWs are perhaps the most subservient of all the European countries in obeying the 'rules' imposed by the WT. Our culture goes back to the days when Roman Catholicism was largely kicked out of Scotland and replaced by strict Protestantism, a la John Knox's Calvinist version. This culture still prevails among the JWs - many are afraid to speak out in religious matters, preferring the status quo.
Meanwhile, the vast majority of the 5 million Scots now prefer a secular society, and in my opinion, our nation is the better for it.
Last night I started a thread on single malt Scotch whisky - I've enjoyed reading the member's posts. So, I think I'll enjoy another dram of Old Pulteney 12 year old before making tonight's dinner...
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How many XJWs went onto another faith....?
by 2pink ini'm just curious here.. as i am exiting currently and trying to find my new place (and belief system) in this world, i am wondering what the experience was like for other xjws.
did you go onto a new faith?
i'd love to read your responses.
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2pink
When I was convinced beyond reasonable doubt that there was no god, I was off! I had no need to trawl through the many thousands of religions in an attempt to stumble across some 'truth'. I know that some exit JWs and go to another church immediately - if that's what they want, fine.
After leaving, I spent quite a lot of time reading up on psychology texts and philosophical works as I'd never been exposed to them as a JW, and understood that they were viewed as dangerous, faith eroding material. Funny, how when you read such scholarly works, you come to realize that what you were indoctrinated with in the JWs is just lies and more lies! I had to realize that I wasn't anywhere near as smart as I'd previously thought.
Nowadays, my efforts are spent trying to assist my JW wife come to a similar viewpoint. It is taking much longer than I expected, but I'm determined that, in time, she'll see logic and move on with her life free from the cult. Being locked into a mind-control cult is absolutely hellish - escaping takes 'inside' knowledge - and for that I'm grateful to the advice contained in Stephen Hassan's 2 books.
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Am i correct?
by angel eyes inthis is just an obsevation from me...ok i dont mean to annoy anyone but is it true or just me?.
i feel that ones raised in the truth are so much better of than us who came in from the world.
i say that because they have family who are witnesses too.
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angel eyes
I think that you're wrong - JWs, in my view, are all 'damaged goods'.
The born-ins, like me, have had a difficult life to attempt to escape the cult. I'm one of the lucky ones that made it, though many are still trapped and struggling to get out. I feel nothing but fellow feeling and some deep compassion for them!
Adults that joined of their own volition are to be pitied, mainly. Many are not quite right in the head, and need medication and therapy to adjust to life in the real world. Many of them eventually break free, too.
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